Taskin | Gypsy Vanner Stallion for Sale

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Taskin turned 5 years old in May of 2008.  He stands 14.3 hands high and  is still growing.
Taskin is the only buckskin horse that looks like this that we have ever seen—a real one of a kind! He has a great body and refined head that we don't see very often. This buckskin stallion is for someone who wants to breed colors rare to the Gypsy horse world along with the best conformation there is to offer.


Update January 2007: Taskin has shown us that he is "beyond color." His conformation is becoming even more perfect as he matures. The refinement in his head and body is just breathtaking.

We do not say this lightly, but we feel that he is going to blow away any piebald or skewbald horse we have ever had before. And his rare color is just a bonus to this amazing stallion. These pictures are one year old, and Taskin has put on significant weight, thickening, bone, and feathering. He honestly looks much better than these pictures can do justice!

 

Just an updated photo of Taskin 2013 currently owned by to June Villa.
Taskin 2013
Taskin | Gypsy Vanner Stallion for Sale
 

Comments on Taskin's Color

I am an equine-specialist sculptor who has made a study of horse colors and color genetics, on my own time rather than by formal schooling, for about the last thirty years.

Taskin is a GORGEOUS horse, for starters! The dappling he shows in the top photo on his page (around his elbows and up his barrel) is a sign of good health common in bay-based horses.

He is NOT a champagne, as he does not have the grey freckles on pink skin that are a major diagnostic for that dilute and his eyes do not appear to be hazel, amber, gold, or green. He is NOT a dun, as he shows no dun factor markings, which include: black horizontal leg bars, a dark, sharp-edged line down the back, pale bars horizontally across the back of each ear just below the tip, "fishbone" marks on the throat and chest, a dark nasal mask, "cob webbing" of darker markings on the forehead, and a cross mark or dark cape at the withers. Dun horses may have any or all of these marks but will have at least some of them.

He IS a bay-based horse, probably a light or "sandy" shade. He IS a sabino pinto, aka Blagdon in vanners, characterized by the blaze wrapping down onto his chin and the white over one knee and up his hind legs. The white in his mane and at his tail head is called "frosting" and is found on many bay-based crème dilute horses (buckskin and perlino). I agree with everyone who says "buttermilk" buckskin, also sometimes called "cream" buckskin.

I have little to offer in the way of references for my knowledge, save Google-searching color terms, checking sites like doubledilute.com, and having identified the stallion Cobalt, by Bob the Blagdon Horse, as a maximum-expression sabino before his second birthday. Color and breeding testing has evidently proven me correct with Cobalt, and I am fairly confident that Taskin is a STUNNING buttermilk buckskin sabino.

Monique Hayes
The Silent Menagerie 

About Your Buckskin Horse

Your horse is a Buckskin horse. A Cremello will have white mane and a Dun will always have a dorsal stripe.  I used to raise buckskin geldings and the color looks more like a buttermilk.  The last time I had purchased some buckskin colts I thought they may have been a cremello but after I had DNA testing completed they said they were buckskin colts.  Either way, Taskin is beautiful!  Good luck, and I'll be back to see your other buckskin horses.

Buckskin Stallions- Definitely Not Chestnut

Dear Sir,

 You have asked for people to get in touch with comments about that lovely Vanner's colour and that is what I am doing. I have been learning about equine colour genetics on-and-off for about a year now - specializing in the cream dilutes - and I do believe that the people that have said that Taskin's not a cremello or a dun are exactly correct. For him to be a cremello, all pigment would be bleached - not only that but his base colour would be chestnut and the dark points tell me that he is not chestnut, his base colour is probably bay. As for dun, there is a possibility but it's highly unlikely as he lacks a dorsal stripe - a telltale sign of the 'lineback' gene. Then what is he? He definitely has the creme gene to dilute his base colour like that. Put simply, I believe that he's one of your buckskin stallions. Not any buckskin though, I think that his colour would correctly be called 'Buttermilk Buckskin' as it is very pale - almost as pale as that of a perlino, cremello or smoky cream. Buttermilk isn't caused by a set gene that shows up on DNA testing, so it would be hard to prove, it's more of a term for the shades - much like Chocolate palomino is the exact opposite of Isabella palomino. If you have any further questions, please don't hesitate to send me an e-mail at this address.

A devoted fan of Vanners,

Ruby Starr

Buckskin Horse Color Champagne

I'm not a professional on buckskin horse color, and it's hard to tell if not in person sometimes, but I do believe Taskin is a Champagne, Cream, or a type of Dun. Dun comes in a variety of shades, so that is probably the closest color. If a dorsal stripe or faint 'zebra' markings are present, that just back him up being a Dun. I'm sure there is a name to his coat, but there unexplainable colors to occur.

By the way, he is a beautiful Gypsy Vanner.

Your Buckskin Horse for Sale

Hi, I saw Taskin (one of your buckskin horses for sale) only because a girl had done a model that looked like him on a breyer. i went to your site, he is absolutely gorgeous (so are your buckskin colts!). You have probably heard it all, but i have been around horses all my life and to me, he is what they call a Buttermilk Buckskin (I love buckskin geldings).....
He is so cool, he almost has a champagne color body wise but with the black mane and tail and points, he cant be champagne. You have one gorgeous horse..  How did you ever get this color? i thought they were only black and white in the gypsy horses.... 

Sandy H 

Buckskin Horses called Yellow Buckskin

Dear Doug,
I was perusing your site and admired Taskin!  He is a beautiful color!... one that is quite common among many spanish horse breeds and mixes especially Spanish Mustangs, Paso Finos and Quarter horses in particular.  It is a shade of buckskin horses called 'yellow buckskin'.  It is a creme dilute gene on a bay base the same as palomino is a creme gene dilution on a chestnut base.  There are many light shades of a buckskin horse from a pale cream to a dark golden and all shades in between (just as there are many shades of palomino).  Buttermilk buckskin is very light cream, yellow buckskin (geldings, colts, stallions and the like) has more yellow in it.  Such buckskins can also have the dun factor with dorsal and leg stripes and those of the same shade as Taskin are called yellow duns. 

Hope this helps you out.  There are lots of web sites covering the science of horse color genetics, a fun study if you want to do a search.  Good luck with your beautiful Gypsies! 

Valerie V

Buckskin Colt Owner Believes Champagne

Regarding Taskin – except for the dark points being as dark as they are I would say Champagne is his color. If I could see him up close it would be easier to determine but the beautiful sheen in his coat conforms to the Champagne standard.  I used to own a buckskin colt and this is definitely the most unusual color Gypsy I have ever seen. Are you considering putting him up for sale?

 Alicia M

Buckskin Horse for Sale May Be Sable Creme Champagne

Hi, Doug
I think Taskin may be an amber cream champagne, from looking at his pictures (even when he was a buckskin colt!).  I can't see his eyes, though.  are they amber or light brownish?  Just an idea.  they can get the frosting in the mane and tail like the duns, but have no dun-factor markings (dorsal strip, leg bars etc).  the champagne horse registry has photos of every horse in the studbook online, I pulled a couple that look kind of like Taskin.  Champagne is one of those genes that affects all base colors... but what, exactly, his base color is, I'm not sure.  I assume bay, but buckskin is also a possibility.  Have you had him tested for the cream dilution?  He looks like some of the amber, amber creme, or sable creme champagnes.  the amber creme has both the champagne and cream dilutions.

he's cute!  good luck figuring out what color your (buckskin horse for sale) actually is!

Karin

Buckskin horse Probably not Cremello

Hi Doug, I too agree he probably is not a cremello or dun. Personally I think
he is a beautiful buttermilk buckskin horse with a higher creme factor in his genes
to make him lighter in color. He is one of a kind anyways! :) Have a great
day.

Lauren

Hi, I was reading all of the posts on Taskin's coloring and decided to throw my two cents in. I agree with the folks who believe him to be buckskin. All horses are either black or chestnut - all other colors being variations caused by gene modifiers. I believe Taskin to be a black with a bay modifier who also carries a single cream dilute, or to put it simply a  buckskin. 

I read several posts by people that are suggesting he is a champagne, but the champagne gene would've diluted his points as well. The champagne gene is also dominant so one of his parents would of displayed its characteristics. An Amber bay is what you would call a bay with the champagne gene, and chestnuts with the champagne gene are properly called champagne chestnuts. As for whether he is a yellow buckskin or a buttermilk I don't believe these to be  genetically descriptive terms. 

The most striking thing about him to me is the sabino markings commonly seen in Clydesdales. Since the genes that control the colored markings and the white markings are separate you can get some very beautiful combinations- and Taskin is a lovely example. To top it all off the white at the base of his tale is tell tale sign of the Rabicano pattern, which can be as little as white at the base of the tale or be combined with roaning over the flank an sides in more extreme cases. 

I am very interested in color genetics so if you ever get him tested please post your findings. I would love to find out the truth an see how close my guess was. 

Thanks,

Alyssa
alyssadarby@hotmail.com

 

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